Fable anyone? - Page 2

Gambit · 09-18-2004, 09:00 AM

The problems not how you compare or rate games, jj, but more with how you're using certain labels. (In fact, the points you mentioned like drawing you in and a sense of realism count for an awful lot with me, too)
If you said that tshirt is black, when it's obviously white to me, then we have a communication problem somewhere and at least one of us needs to adjust. So what got everybody twisted up was when you used the same label for game A that you used for game B. Kind of like if you put Donkey Kong and Doom in the same category, people would at least look at you funny...

KitZune · 09-18-2004, 11:51 AM

Gambit knows what I'm talking about. If you look at games without barriers than how can you say one is BETTER than another? I don't like to say that at all... my favourite games are not better than other games, I simply enjoy them more. So if you want to say something is BETTER, then you better be comparing the same sort of game, otherwise people will think you don't know what you're talking about.

My favourite Genre of game is Fighting games... but some of my favourite games are RPGs, or even FPSes... But I'd never call Soul Calibur 2 better than Final Fantasy X. Nor would I call Final Fantasy X better than Soul Calibur 2. However I MIGHT say that Soul Calibur 2 is better than Virtua Fighter 4 (which... it's actually pretty close in my opinion).

Play Final Fantasy 6 or 10... 10 actually made me cry at the end because the story was so engrossing. It's not all that expensive anymore... but I would tell you it's well worth it... It may not be your "Favourite" game... but it's still a good one.

Gambit · 09-18-2004, 05:51 PM

There are twists to that, though. You can easily say, for example, that one product is better-made than another; you KNOW we have all played games that were made very poorly...

(side note: not sure what my FAVE game is, but my fave group of developers would certainly be that Looking Glass crew. Some of whom are now at Irrational, and worked on T:V, I think...)

KitZune · 09-19-2004, 09:48 AM

Yeah I love the Looking Glass games... System Shock 2... Thief.. awesome games... it's too bad they were scattered to the wind...

Kyrie · 09-21-2004, 01:43 PM

I'm a sucker for very customizable characters, so on that basis alone I'm quite interested in Fable. I'm definitely gonna rent it and give it a try, especially now that I'm actually okay with Xbox controllers thanks to Tony Hawk and Halo, haha. I just know I'm gonna feel the urge to make my character an evil bisexual pretty boy.

PS: I have to finish Silent Hill 4 first though, and I've got like two more hours to go in it. It's also three days late for return. Whoops!

PPS: Virtua Fighter 4 kicks Soul Calibur 2's ass.

KitZune · 09-22-2004, 12:49 PM

It's pretty close to me... but the ancient and accurate weaponry over pure martial arts wins it out for me... Virtua Fighter 5 looks good tho.... But I hope Aoi can still do her triple leg-breaker move.

Gambit · 09-22-2004, 06:42 PM

What do you folks think about the Dead or Alive games, BTW?

yak · 09-23-2004, 09:07 AM

doa is a good series of games, ive seen worse games

STUWEY · 09-24-2004, 09:02 AM

i hope to get DOA Ultimate when it comes out

KitZune · 09-24-2004, 10:16 AM

DOA is pretty good... moved to Xbox, and since have not played any of them... I'm not a fan of "the box"

09-18-2004, 09:00 AM	#16
Gambit Forum wh0re Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 744	The problems not how you compare or rate games, jj, but more with how you're using certain labels. (In fact, the points you mentioned like drawing you in and a sense of realism count for an awful lot with me, too) If you said that tshirt is black, when it's obviously white to me, then we have a communication problem somewhere and at least one of us needs to adjust. So what got everybody twisted up was when you used the same label for game A that you used for game B. Kind of like if you put Donkey Kong and Doom in the same category, people would at least look at you funny... __________________ XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained. -The Tao of Programming

09-18-2004, 11:51 AM	#17
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	Gambit knows what I'm talking about. If you look at games without barriers than how can you say one is BETTER than another? I don't like to say that at all... my favourite games are not better than other games, I simply enjoy them more. So if you want to say something is BETTER, then you better be comparing the same sort of game, otherwise people will think you don't know what you're talking about. My favourite Genre of game is Fighting games... but some of my favourite games are RPGs, or even FPSes... But I'd never call Soul Calibur 2 better than Final Fantasy X. Nor would I call Final Fantasy X better than Soul Calibur 2. However I MIGHT say that Soul Calibur 2 is better than Virtua Fighter 4 (which... it's actually pretty close in my opinion). Play Final Fantasy 6 or 10... 10 actually made me cry at the end because the story was so engrossing. It's not all that expensive anymore... but I would tell you it's well worth it... It may not be your "Favourite" game... but it's still a good one. __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork

09-18-2004, 05:51 PM	#18
Gambit Forum wh0re Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 744	There are twists to that, though. You can easily say, for example, that one product is better-made than another; you KNOW we have all played games that were made very poorly... (side note: not sure what my FAVE game is, but my fave group of developers would certainly be that Looking Glass crew. Some of whom are now at Irrational, and worked on T:V, I think...) __________________ XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained. -The Tao of Programming Last edited by Gambit; 09-18-2004 at 05:55 PM.

09-19-2004, 09:48 AM	#19
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	Yeah I love the Looking Glass games... System Shock 2... Thief.. awesome games... it's too bad they were scattered to the wind... __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork

09-22-2004, 12:49 PM	#21
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	It's pretty close to me... but the ancient and accurate weaponry over pure martial arts wins it out for me... Virtua Fighter 5 looks good tho.... But I hope Aoi can still do her triple leg-breaker move. __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork

09-21-2004, 01:43 PM	#20
Kyrie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Age: 39 Posts: 95	I'm a sucker for very customizable characters, so on that basis alone I'm quite interested in Fable. I'm definitely gonna rent it and give it a try, especially now that I'm actually okay with Xbox controllers thanks to Tony Hawk and Halo, haha. I just know I'm gonna feel the urge to make my character an evil bisexual pretty boy. PS: I have to finish Silent Hill 4 first though, and I've got like two more hours to go in it. It's also three days late for return. Whoops! PPS: Virtua Fighter 4 kicks Soul Calibur 2's ass.

09-22-2004, 06:42 PM	#22
Gambit Forum wh0re Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 744	What do you folks think about the Dead or Alive games, BTW? __________________ XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained. -The Tao of Programming

09-23-2004, 09:07 AM	#23
yak Threadkiller Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: marysville, washington Age: 39 Posts: 537	doa is a good series of games, ive seen worse games __________________ One can smile, and smile, and still be a villian.-William Shakespeare Are you trying to tell me that the man who tried to put a rubber fist in my anus was a uhh.. homosexual?-Borat

09-24-2004, 09:02 AM	#24
STUWEY Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Right behind you Age: 41 Posts: 242	i hope to get DOA Ultimate when it comes out

09-24-2004, 10:16 AM	#25
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	DOA is pretty good... moved to Xbox, and since have not played any of them... I'm not a fan of "the box" __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork