Going under the proverbial Knife... this one's a doosey. - Page 2

Stang · 06-19-2003, 11:41 AM

Before and after pictures

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What you do with your nuts is your business

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Spinning Hat · 06-19-2003, 01:27 PM

Whatever you do, Don't make anyone rocky mountain oysters with them...

Stang · 06-19-2003, 04:09 PM

Oh jeez!

Do your parents know about all this that has been going on and what you want to do? How do they feel? Supportive?

KitZune · 06-19-2003, 05:17 PM

My parents have known about this problem for quite a while... couple years now at least.... and it's been obvious otherwise, since It's hard to hide the fact that I'm more feminine than masculine.... But as for my decision, a while ago I had given up and said it was impossible... I had decided I would try to deal with my problem... but I"m finding out that *It's* the impossible route...

So I told my mom as soon as I could when she came home from her vacation... we had a LOOOOOOOOONG talk about it and in the end she's as supportive as she possibly can be... but now I have to tell my dad... and he's scary, and hard to talk to... he's busy and stressful... so I don't know when to break this kind of news to him... and when I try to open my mouth to speak I feel like I'm doing something wrong by saying it... I don't know where I'm going to get the courage to tell him.

Aluscia · 06-20-2003, 05:32 AM

He's your father, Kitz. He will understand, especially if you try to explain how much your current body pains you. I think your dad is just a big suck hiding under that scariness... But I hope it goes well (your talk, that is). I know how difficult it is to break something new to people, but I must admit your situation is a little more difficult (by a little I mean a lot).
I just wish I wasn't such a third wheel. I've just had trouble letting go of the image I have of you... but I think I reached an epiphany last night, so I should be ok.

CHECK YOUR EMAIL, STANG!!!! I sent you an email like 3 days ago... I sent it to both mustang@thzclan.com and stang@thzclan.com because I couldn't remember which it was.

Stang · 06-20-2003, 11:59 AM

IM SOOOOOO SORRY LAURELIN!!!!

I did get it and just keep forgetting, things around here have been stressful for us so my mind has been preoccupied. I did get it though. I use stang@thzclan.com. I'll get on early today and respond to it. Im sorry

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I have the same problem with my dad too Kitz. But when I do feel comfortable talking with him, which isnt much, he does care and listen. Dont dads always take things hard anyways

. But Im sure once you do talk to him he will come around like your mom.

KitZune · 06-20-2003, 02:19 PM

Yeah I know....It's hard, even though I know it will be okay...
But he'll have to know eventually.

FaLLGuY · 06-20-2003, 04:11 PM

a jar of mixed nuts sounds good..

Walks on Clouds · 06-22-2003, 07:27 AM

Cool. I'm happy for you and also sorry for any misunderstandings early in our acquaintance. Although I write and speak pretty good English (imo), I have no really firm grasp on the severity of some words, I think.

Anyway, I'm happy that you've decided to go to action and hope it will help you feel better.

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XMEN Ashaman DTM · 06-22-2003, 04:06 PM

Kit, speaking from someone that is very hard to get to know sometimes, it's a HUGE relief when someone just comes out and says something. That could just be my personality... that I'd rather people not "dance around the bush" so to speak. Talking with my parents is hard sometimes too. Especially if it's something that I consider very personal.

All I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that he'll be supportive. Even if it takes a while for him to get used to the idea. So don't be scared.

What I'm curious about is have you talked with a counselor about this? I'm not saying that I don't support your decision... just that such a huge change in your physical appearance is not something to be taken lightly. And I have heard of people that went ahead and did it, only to regret it afterwards. (I met a girl that used to be a guy once... He regretted not thinking things through a bit. But she wasn't going back.) I have also heard that there are almost always some issues that need to be resolved before the person goes through with it.

KitZune · 06-22-2003, 09:14 PM

There are issues that will need to be resolved, I know that.... and yes I've been seeing a doctor for my gender issues (And other issues) for some time now... it's just recently that I've finally come to a decision... The problem is.... on either side of the coin lies regret.... If I go through with it I *MAY* regret it ... if I don't go through with it... well... I'm already regretting it.

Stang · 06-23-2003, 11:37 AM

Dont they make you live your life as the other sex for like a year or so before going thru with it? To make sure its what you really want and for the hormonal pills.

Its good you are going to a doctor to talk all this out. It is a serious change. Keep with it

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KitZune · 06-23-2003, 11:41 AM

Yes you have to be living as a female for an entire year before a doctor will give you a referal... you need two referals minimum to be allowed the surgery.

They don't allow people to make mistakes anymore. Too much suicide used to go on... But as I said, I need to do this now, before too much of my life is gone... No offense to any middle aged women here... but who wants to start their life as a woman at the age of 40? Not me.

Stang · 06-23-2003, 10:58 PM

Not me either

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KitZune · 06-24-2003, 07:14 AM

And WoC don't worry, I remember the conversation you're talking about now (I couldn't remember when I first read your message) I was totally just joking around with you... I like being able to SHOCK people with my problems, I think it's fun how some people react... and since you were new to THZ you were a perfect target ; )

Whelp today I see my psycho doctor for the first time since making this decision... so I'll write about what he says when I get home to keep you guys in the know.

06-19-2003, 11:41 AM	#16
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	Before and after pictures . What you do with your nuts is your business . __________________

06-19-2003, 01:27 PM	#17
Spinning Hat Toupee Cover Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Coon Rapids, MN USA Age: 44 Posts: 755	Whatever you do, Don't make anyone rocky mountain oysters with them... __________________ Never, Never, Never Quit -Winston Churchill

06-19-2003, 04:09 PM	#18
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	Oh jeez! Do your parents know about all this that has been going on and what you want to do? How do they feel? Supportive? __________________

06-19-2003, 05:17 PM	#19
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	My parents have known about this problem for quite a while... couple years now at least.... and it's been obvious otherwise, since It's hard to hide the fact that I'm more feminine than masculine.... But as for my decision, a while ago I had given up and said it was impossible... I had decided I would try to deal with my problem... but I"m finding out that It's the impossible route... So I told my mom as soon as I could when she came home from her vacation... we had a LOOOOOOOOONG talk about it and in the end she's as supportive as she possibly can be... but now I have to tell my dad... and he's scary, and hard to talk to... he's busy and stressful... so I don't know when to break this kind of news to him... and when I try to open my mouth to speak I feel like I'm doing something wrong by saying it... I don't know where I'm going to get the courage to tell him. __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork

06-20-2003, 05:32 AM	#20
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	He's your father, Kitz. He will understand, especially if you try to explain how much your current body pains you. I think your dad is just a big suck hiding under that scariness... But I hope it goes well (your talk, that is). I know how difficult it is to break something new to people, but I must admit your situation is a little more difficult (by a little I mean a lot). I just wish I wasn't such a third wheel. I've just had trouble letting go of the image I have of you... but I think I reached an epiphany last night, so I should be ok. CHECK YOUR EMAIL, STANG!!!! I sent you an email like 3 days ago... I sent it to both mustang@thzclan.com and stang@thzclan.com because I couldn't remember which it was. __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

06-20-2003, 11:59 AM	#21
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	IM SOOOOOO SORRY LAURELIN!!!! I did get it and just keep forgetting, things around here have been stressful for us so my mind has been preoccupied. I did get it though. I use stang@thzclan.com. I'll get on early today and respond to it. Im sorry . I have the same problem with my dad too Kitz. But when I do feel comfortable talking with him, which isnt much, he does care and listen. Dont dads always take things hard anyways . But Im sure once you do talk to him he will come around like your mom. __________________

06-20-2003, 02:19 PM	#22
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	Yeah I know....It's hard, even though I know it will be okay... But he'll have to know eventually. __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork

06-20-2003, 04:11 PM	#23
FaLLGuY Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Plymouth, Minnesota Age: 52 Posts: 146 Xbox Leaderboard: 3^rd	a jar of mixed nuts sounds good.. __________________

06-22-2003, 07:27 AM	#24
Walks on Clouds Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 346	Cool. I'm happy for you and also sorry for any misunderstandings early in our acquaintance. Although I write and speak pretty good English (imo), I have no really firm grasp on the severity of some words, I think. Anyway, I'm happy that you've decided to go to action and hope it will help you feel better. : __________________ /Walks on Clouds - Pappy Huppy

06-22-2003, 04:06 PM	#25
XMEN Ashaman DTM Forum wh0re Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 46 Posts: 965	Kit, speaking from someone that is very hard to get to know sometimes, it's a HUGE relief when someone just comes out and says something. That could just be my personality... that I'd rather people not "dance around the bush" so to speak. Talking with my parents is hard sometimes too. Especially if it's something that I consider very personal. All I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that he'll be supportive. Even if it takes a while for him to get used to the idea. So don't be scared. What I'm curious about is have you talked with a counselor about this? I'm not saying that I don't support your decision... just that such a huge change in your physical appearance is not something to be taken lightly. And I have heard of people that went ahead and did it, only to regret it afterwards. (I met a girl that used to be a guy once... He regretted not thinking things through a bit. But she wasn't going back.) I have also heard that there are almost always some issues that need to be resolved before the person goes through with it.

06-22-2003, 09:14 PM	#26
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	There are issues that will need to be resolved, I know that.... and yes I've been seeing a doctor for my gender issues (And other issues) for some time now... it's just recently that I've finally come to a decision... The problem is.... on either side of the coin lies regret.... If I go through with it I MAY regret it ... if I don't go through with it... well... I'm already regretting it. __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork

06-23-2003, 11:37 AM	#27
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	Dont they make you live your life as the other sex for like a year or so before going thru with it? To make sure its what you really want and for the hormonal pills. Its good you are going to a doctor to talk all this out. It is a serious change. Keep with it . __________________

06-23-2003, 11:41 AM	#28
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	Yes you have to be living as a female for an entire year before a doctor will give you a referal... you need two referals minimum to be allowed the surgery. They don't allow people to make mistakes anymore. Too much suicide used to go on... But as I said, I need to do this now, before too much of my life is gone... No offense to any middle aged women here... but who wants to start their life as a woman at the age of 40? Not me. __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork

06-23-2003, 10:58 PM	#29
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	Not me either . __________________

06-24-2003, 07:14 AM	#30
KitZune Transgendered Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Ontario (Near Toronto) Age: 42 Posts: 1,079	And WoC don't worry, I remember the conversation you're talking about now (I couldn't remember when I first read your message) I was totally just joking around with you... I like being able to SHOCK people with my problems, I think it's fun how some people react... and since you were new to THZ you were a perfect target ; ) Whelp today I see my psycho doctor for the first time since making this decision... so I'll write about what he says when I get home to keep you guys in the know. __________________ She's named after Judas... Not a CARROT Click here to view my artwork