A different perspective (long post)

XMEN Ashaman DTM · 03-25-2003, 11:53 AM

On Iraq: I think we should rebuild it like we did with Japan. There will be an occupation, there is no doubt about that. We won't turn our backs on the country, only to turn around and see a regime hostile to the US be put in place.
In regards to the military significance: it's great. We'll definitely have at least one base there. The Kuwaiti's are friendly enough with us that they allow us to use their land and airspace pretty much whenever we want. But they could still deny us that because they are a soveriegn nation. We would control Iraq for a few years at least, because they would require policing and protection.

In the meantime, Iraq poses a unique opportunity to show the muslim world what the US is like. Unless there are large elements that won't believe what they see when they visit Iraq.

In regards to you Laur, I have to say that I somewhat admire your conviction in pacifism. BUT! I'd also like to point out that as long as there are people like Saddam Hussein, who will take what they want when they can, there can't be a peaceful solution.

My question to you is: How can Saddam's regime fail through pacifism?

Saddam poses a direct threat to the US in several ways (turning the muslim world against us with nasty propoganda, oil, a desire to acquire nuclear weapons, and by drawing support of muslims that already hate us even though Saddam is a false muslim, and doing things to his own people while the rest of the world stands by). Saddam would have conquered the middle east if he could, and if the rest of the world did not step in. He went after Iran, and got into a stalemate, he launched attacks at Israel, invaded Kuwait and made of with women and money. He is the kind of person that eliminated any and all political threats when he started out.

We are spoiled here in the states and in Canada; especially compared to what goes on in other parts of the world. I admire president Bush for trying to fix many wrongs. (But that's probably a spin on the fact that the US feels threatened and is being proactive in its defense, and Bush's own morals showing.) But I have to agree that the way that Bush does foreign policy is scary and at times idiotic.

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03-25-2003, 11:53 AM	#15
XMEN Ashaman DTM Forum wh0re Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 47 Posts: 965	On Iraq: I think we should rebuild it like we did with Japan. There will be an occupation, there is no doubt about that. We won't turn our backs on the country, only to turn around and see a regime hostile to the US be put in place. In regards to the military significance: it's great. We'll definitely have at least one base there. The Kuwaiti's are friendly enough with us that they allow us to use their land and airspace pretty much whenever we want. But they could still deny us that because they are a soveriegn nation. We would control Iraq for a few years at least, because they would require policing and protection. In the meantime, Iraq poses a unique opportunity to show the muslim world what the US is like. Unless there are large elements that won't believe what they see when they visit Iraq. In regards to you Laur, I have to say that I somewhat admire your conviction in pacifism. BUT! I'd also like to point out that as long as there are people like Saddam Hussein, who will take what they want when they can, there can't be a peaceful solution. My question to you is: How can Saddam's regime fail through pacifism? Saddam poses a direct threat to the US in several ways (turning the muslim world against us with nasty propoganda, oil, a desire to acquire nuclear weapons, and by drawing support of muslims that already hate us even though Saddam is a false muslim, and doing things to his own people while the rest of the world stands by). Saddam would have conquered the middle east if he could, and if the rest of the world did not step in. He went after Iran, and got into a stalemate, he launched attacks at Israel, invaded Kuwait and made of with women and money. He is the kind of person that eliminated any and all political threats when he started out. We are spoiled here in the states and in Canada; especially compared to what goes on in other parts of the world. I admire president Bush for trying to fix many wrongs. (But that's probably a spin on the fact that the US feels threatened and is being proactive in its defense, and Bush's own morals showing.) But I have to agree that the way that Bush does foreign policy is scary and at times idiotic.