Why are games being made for console only?

Mobius · 11-20-2002, 02:54 AM

I was really looking forward to Red Faction 2. From what I can find out it's for PS2 only. F'ing bastards! I hate the control system for console. I could barely play Halo on my friends Xbox. Another game I was really looking forward to on PC.

It makes me want to go get a wood bat, drive a few nails thru it, go look for some designers and give em some lovin.

It wouldn't be to bad if the console industry would make an keyboard and mouse addon. Then I might actually consider buying one.

Oh well I'm gonna chew on my keyboard some more about Red Faction.

Aluscia · 11-20-2002, 04:48 AM

I'm sorry, Mob... The problem designers are running up against with putting games out for console *and* PC is that the game will rarely look the same. Because PC's come in all different shapes and sizes, they usually want to scrape system reqs down as much as they can... It just may be that in this case, when they went to try to develop it for PC, it wasn't turning out they way they envisioned it, and stopped development...

That's my guess... It could also be that console sales are crazy right now, and it's generally easier to market a console game than a PC game (provided the game is good...)

Spinning Hat · 11-20-2002, 04:54 AM

I dunno about scraping system reqs down, The Xbox has a 700Mhz CPU and 128Mb RAM. That's not an ungodly system req. Then, they can have the Xbox graphics, but people with better systems can crank the graphics waaay up, and it will look very pretty indeed. I was disappointed with FF VIII for PC, as it was a PS1 game run through an emulator basically, when it could have looked so much better. PC games are not the best sellers tho historically, and that is a huge factor wether or not the game is ported to other platforms. So, sometimes, we miss out.

XMEN Ashaman DTM · 11-20-2002, 08:10 AM

I think that watching T2 should answer the question. During the beta, people couldn't run the game on their systems. Most of them had Voodoo cards. That's the problem with PC's. You have to design for a bunch of different systems, otherwise you get a bad rep. Personally, I didn't have any problems with the initial beta install... it was like the third patch that it crapped out.

With a console, you get your specs and go with them. It's easy. You can spend WAY more time working on content, story, etc.

Stang · 11-20-2002, 11:43 AM

I agree with Asha they dont have to worry about a different variety of systems on consoles they know what they are dealing with and constentrate on the game itself more. Im not saying PC games dont pay attention to story lines or content cuz there are some great games that do that but after they do all that they have to figure on what types of systems can run it smoothly without the consumer having to go spend more money.

I was waiting for Halo to come out on PC too, like many others, and thought man this is going to be hard to do without a keyboard. But after a bit of playing it I got use to the controller and loved it! It is nicer playing with a keyboard but the controller is nice when you get use to it. Its your brain that has to get use to using a controller over a keyboard, just an adjustment

.

Mobius · 11-20-2002, 12:15 PM

Well once the people of planet Zorgath anex earth and make me supreme ruler I'm gonna take a bat to every console out there.

In Halo I never got past the last jeep obstical course. The one where the ship is about to explode and you have like 5 min to get out. Spent about 2 hours before I almost sucumb to the urge to stomp the control pad in to the condo below me.

There's 2 things I utterly hate and despise. One is needles, the other is the crappy control pads consoles use.

Stang · 11-20-2002, 01:17 PM

I spent about that much time doing that last level too! But I wasnt going to let it bring me down

!!!

I thought I was going to hate that XBOX control cuz it is a little different from the regular ones out there but after using it after a while I really like it. Its comfortable and the buttons are easy to reach for the most part. Dont try "The Thing" that game uses every button on that controller

.

On a little side note about the console games though, dont know if you are able to hack like the PS2 or the Gamecube (dont know if the gamecube is internet ready) but XBOX has taken a step and made it so all those fools that have modified their XBOX's will not be able to use it on XBOX Live, WOOHOO!!! Cheaters are gettin what has been coming to them

.

Spinning Hat · 11-20-2002, 01:25 PM

Most people have no need to modufy their PS2's, unless they want to play Japanese games.Why are people modding their Xbox's?

XMEN Ashaman DTM · 11-20-2002, 01:42 PM

DOH!

Double post!

XMEN Ashaman DTM · 11-20-2002, 01:42 PM

To put Linux on them.

Heh.

Stupid geeks.

Stang · 11-20-2002, 01:52 PM

I think some are doing it for the Japenese versions and the others are upgrading the chips and Harddrives. I guess they can put a switch on the box but who knows if that will work.

Aluscia · 11-21-2002, 05:50 AM

Microsoft is just bitter that they can't have supreme control over everything. Look at Sony... They just made sure that everyone knew their warranty was void as soon as they modded their machine. And, generally speaking, modding it weakens the system. I know my old PSX literally fell apart after it got modded, and that was with external chips. It was great... I had to stick pennies into the video port into to get the CD to skip past the Sony screen....Don't even ask why, I have no idea... I was young, and pissed off that my library of 200 burned games was going to waste. (That's the other reason why people mod their systems... not all new games are actually DVD roms, or take full advantage of the capacity of them) However, as soon as I got my PS2, I made a promise to myself that I would keep it clean, and even follow all the little ideosyncratic instructions they leave you to "maintain the performance of your Playstation2(c) console"... It has been a couple of months since I've vaccuumed it, however... hmm.....

Spinning Hat · 11-21-2002, 07:11 AM

Vacuuming the PS2? I never heard of that.....

XMEN Ashaman DTM · 11-21-2002, 08:12 AM

It makes sense.

And BJ looks like a kid!

Stang's robbing the cradle!!

WOOHOO!!!

Aluscia · 11-21-2002, 08:33 AM

11-20-2002, 02:54 AM	#1
Mobius Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 66	Why are games being made for console only? I was really looking forward to Red Faction 2. From what I can find out it's for PS2 only. F'ing bastards! I hate the control system for console. I could barely play Halo on my friends Xbox. Another game I was really looking forward to on PC. It makes me want to go get a wood bat, drive a few nails thru it, go look for some designers and give em some lovin. It wouldn't be to bad if the console industry would make an keyboard and mouse addon. Then I might actually consider buying one. Oh well I'm gonna chew on my keyboard some more about Red Faction.

11-20-2002, 04:48 AM	#2
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	I'm sorry, Mob... The problem designers are running up against with putting games out for console and PC is that the game will rarely look the same. Because PC's come in all different shapes and sizes, they usually want to scrape system reqs down as much as they can... It just may be that in this case, when they went to try to develop it for PC, it wasn't turning out they way they envisioned it, and stopped development... That's my guess... It could also be that console sales are crazy right now, and it's generally easier to market a console game than a PC game (provided the game is good...) __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

11-20-2002, 04:54 AM	#3
Spinning Hat Toupee Cover Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Coon Rapids, MN USA Age: 44 Posts: 755	I dunno about scraping system reqs down, The Xbox has a 700Mhz CPU and 128Mb RAM. That's not an ungodly system req. Then, they can have the Xbox graphics, but people with better systems can crank the graphics waaay up, and it will look very pretty indeed. I was disappointed with FF VIII for PC, as it was a PS1 game run through an emulator basically, when it could have looked so much better. PC games are not the best sellers tho historically, and that is a huge factor wether or not the game is ported to other platforms. So, sometimes, we miss out. __________________ Never, Never, Never Quit -Winston Churchill

11-20-2002, 11:43 AM	#5
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	I agree with Asha they dont have to worry about a different variety of systems on consoles they know what they are dealing with and constentrate on the game itself more. Im not saying PC games dont pay attention to story lines or content cuz there are some great games that do that but after they do all that they have to figure on what types of systems can run it smoothly without the consumer having to go spend more money. I was waiting for Halo to come out on PC too, like many others, and thought man this is going to be hard to do without a keyboard. But after a bit of playing it I got use to the controller and loved it! It is nicer playing with a keyboard but the controller is nice when you get use to it. Its your brain that has to get use to using a controller over a keyboard, just an adjustment . __________________

11-20-2002, 01:17 PM	#7
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	I spent about that much time doing that last level too! But I wasnt going to let it bring me down !!! I thought I was going to hate that XBOX control cuz it is a little different from the regular ones out there but after using it after a while I really like it. Its comfortable and the buttons are easy to reach for the most part. Dont try "The Thing" that game uses every button on that controller . On a little side note about the console games though, dont know if you are able to hack like the PS2 or the Gamecube (dont know if the gamecube is internet ready) but XBOX has taken a step and made it so all those fools that have modified their XBOX's will not be able to use it on XBOX Live, WOOHOO!!! Cheaters are gettin what has been coming to them . __________________

11-20-2002, 08:10 AM	#4
XMEN Ashaman DTM Forum wh0re Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 46 Posts: 965	I think that watching T2 should answer the question. During the beta, people couldn't run the game on their systems. Most of them had Voodoo cards. That's the problem with PC's. You have to design for a bunch of different systems, otherwise you get a bad rep. Personally, I didn't have any problems with the initial beta install... it was like the third patch that it crapped out. With a console, you get your specs and go with them. It's easy. You can spend WAY more time working on content, story, etc.

11-20-2002, 12:15 PM	#6
Mobius Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 66	Well once the people of planet Zorgath anex earth and make me supreme ruler I'm gonna take a bat to every console out there. In Halo I never got past the last jeep obstical course. The one where the ship is about to explode and you have like 5 min to get out. Spent about 2 hours before I almost sucumb to the urge to stomp the control pad in to the condo below me. There's 2 things I utterly hate and despise. One is needles, the other is the crappy control pads consoles use.

11-20-2002, 01:25 PM	#8
Spinning Hat Toupee Cover Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Coon Rapids, MN USA Age: 44 Posts: 755	Most people have no need to modufy their PS2's, unless they want to play Japanese games.Why are people modding their Xbox's? __________________ Never, Never, Never Quit -Winston Churchill

11-20-2002, 01:42 PM	#9
XMEN Ashaman DTM Forum wh0re Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 46 Posts: 965	DOH! Double post!

11-20-2002, 01:52 PM	#11
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	I think some are doing it for the Japenese versions and the others are upgrading the chips and Harddrives. I guess they can put a switch on the box but who knows if that will work. __________________

11-21-2002, 05:50 AM	#12
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	Microsoft is just bitter that they can't have supreme control over everything. Look at Sony... They just made sure that everyone knew their warranty was void as soon as they modded their machine. And, generally speaking, modding it weakens the system. I know my old PSX literally fell apart after it got modded, and that was with external chips. It was great... I had to stick pennies into the video port into to get the CD to skip past the Sony screen....Don't even ask why, I have no idea... I was young, and pissed off that my library of 200 burned games was going to waste. (That's the other reason why people mod their systems... not all new games are actually DVD roms, or take full advantage of the capacity of them) However, as soon as I got my PS2, I made a promise to myself that I would keep it clean, and even follow all the little ideosyncratic instructions they leave you to "maintain the performance of your Playstation2(c) console"... It has been a couple of months since I've vaccuumed it, however... hmm..... __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

11-21-2002, 07:11 AM	#13
Spinning Hat Toupee Cover Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Coon Rapids, MN USA Age: 44 Posts: 755	Vacuuming the PS2? I never heard of that..... __________________ Never, Never, Never Quit -Winston Churchill

11-21-2002, 08:12 AM	#14
XMEN Ashaman DTM Forum wh0re Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 46 Posts: 965	It makes sense. And BJ looks like a kid! Stang's robbing the cradle!! WOOHOO!!!

11-21-2002, 08:33 AM	#15
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	__________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

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