Gryph's mail order hobby

Gambit · 03-24-2007, 11:22 AM

... just got a little more expensive.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3546068.html

Sorry, dude. Could be worse, though... Asha's probably up for ID theft any time now:
http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_081194211.html

Cerberus · 03-24-2007, 07:07 PM

Thank God I got an Oregon Drivers License!

Ghryphen · 03-26-2007, 12:49 PM

Sucks :/

Raiyven · 03-26-2007, 01:22 PM

Wait, how does Stang feel about having you get married to... oh. Oh wait, that's an O. I need glasses.

Stang · 03-26-2007, 04:10 PM

Ya that bill is a bunch of crap.

That makes me want to move down to Oregon

.

What? Married? Who? Must be missing something. Must be having a blonde moment

.

Raiyven · 03-26-2007, 08:48 PM

Heh I was bleary-eyed (without my pot o coffee) and the first time I read it, I thought it said 'Gryph's mail order hubby'

Stang · 03-27-2007, 04:04 PM

Raiyven · 03-28-2007, 07:35 AM

I don't know anything about programming, but it seems to me that implementing something to track purchases and tax them accordingly would be an almost pyrrhic task... honestly! It'd have more holes than my socks. If someone's IP is misread they could be taxed incorrectly, leading to blahblahblah. *sigh*

They're trying to clog up the tubes of the internets

LoS-NutzholzWolf · 03-28-2007, 08:02 AM

All they had to do was look at where the credit card bill is sent too or the mailing address.

Raiyven · 03-28-2007, 08:50 AM

Curse you and your logic, Nutz!

I dunno, I still have issues with it. I can see how it could want to be implemented insofar as its a transaction taking place between me in Ontario and, say, Billy Bob in Alabama, and as such the transaction would be subject to taxation seeing as how the seller and purchaser are in regions with their own tax laws. But at the same time, in my mind, the parties are regionalized but the transaction itself is taking place in the politically null space of the internet, unless the server or whatnot through which the transaction takes place (say, wherever the paypal server is. Lets say its in South Park, Colorado) is a politically-recognized entity because of its location and as such whatever transaction takes place on that server is subject to the tax laws of wherever that server is.

My brain hurts!!

Ghryphen · 03-28-2007, 09:30 AM

Yeah, they tax you on where your CC billing address is usually. Will have to have my bills sent to my dad and he can forward them up to me

Raiyven · 03-28-2007, 10:30 AM

This whole thing is just making me catty:

Ghryphen · 03-28-2007, 12:58 PM

Stang · 03-28-2007, 04:20 PM

Doesnt our state also tax you on gambling online? Just a bunch of greedy politicians in this state or stupid ones.

They were trying to get a law passed here, don't know whatever happened with it, to make it so if your married and you don't have a kid within 2 years of being married then your marriage is dissolved. Wth?! Forcing people to have kids? Ya thats a great way to bring kids into this world.

Raiyven · 03-28-2007, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang

They were trying to get a law passed here, don't know whatever happened with it, to make it so if your married and you don't have a kid within 2 years of being married then your marriage is dissolved.

Something like that sounds like a forceful, desperate stop-gap measure to prevent an aging state and gap in the workforce by the time the majority of its inhabitants are of retirement age.

Reminds me more of the natalist policies of Germany under the NSDAP, '33 and onward. While this was to replace those who had died in WWI and also to fill out Europe under the idea of Lebensraum, the parallels are... unparalleled?

What they *dont* count on is the ease of couples saying, 'gently caress you, Mr State, I'm moving to Disneyland'

03-24-2007, 11:22 AM	#1
Gambit Forum wh0re Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 744	Gryph's mail order hobby ... just got a little more expensive. http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3546068.html Sorry, dude. Could be worse, though... Asha's probably up for ID theft any time now: http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_081194211.html __________________ XMEN member Card-carrying DTM OKL Fish-napper Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained. -The Tao of Programming

03-24-2007, 07:07 PM	#2
Cerberus One bad mofo'n Hound Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Your Mom's House Age: 47 Posts: 1,319	Thank God I got an Oregon Drivers License! __________________ Tribes:Ascend Play it today for free

03-26-2007, 12:49 PM	#3
Ghryphen THZ Founder Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,927	Sucks :/ __________________ The Hounds of Zeus \| Allied Tribal Forces

03-26-2007, 01:22 PM	#4
Raiyven Big Bad Thread Boogeyman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Burlington, ON. Age: 41 Posts: 406	Wait, how does Stang feel about having you get married to... oh. Oh wait, that's an O. I need glasses. __________________ "For in that we are both especially daring and especially thorough in calculating what we attempt, we can truly be distinguished from other men, for whom ignorance is boldness but calculation brings hesitancy. Rightly would they be judged strongest in spirit who recognize both dangers and pleasures with utmost clarity and are on neither count deterred from risks." - Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War: 2.40, "The Funeral Oration of Perikles" (431 BCE) Last edited by Raiyven; 03-26-2007 at 01:28 PM.

03-26-2007, 04:10 PM	#5
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	Ya that bill is a bunch of crap. That makes me want to move down to Oregon . What? Married? Who? Must be missing something. Must be having a blonde moment . __________________

03-26-2007, 08:48 PM	#6
Raiyven Big Bad Thread Boogeyman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Burlington, ON. Age: 41 Posts: 406	Heh I was bleary-eyed (without my pot o coffee) and the first time I read it, I thought it said 'Gryph's mail order hubby' __________________ "For in that we are both especially daring and especially thorough in calculating what we attempt, we can truly be distinguished from other men, for whom ignorance is boldness but calculation brings hesitancy. Rightly would they be judged strongest in spirit who recognize both dangers and pleasures with utmost clarity and are on neither count deterred from risks." - Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War: 2.40, "The Funeral Oration of Perikles" (431 BCE)

03-27-2007, 04:04 PM	#7
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	__________________

03-28-2007, 07:35 AM	#8
Raiyven Big Bad Thread Boogeyman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Burlington, ON. Age: 41 Posts: 406	I don't know anything about programming, but it seems to me that implementing something to track purchases and tax them accordingly would be an almost pyrrhic task... honestly! It'd have more holes than my socks. If someone's IP is misread they could be taxed incorrectly, leading to blahblahblah. sigh They're trying to clog up the tubes of the internets __________________ "For in that we are both especially daring and especially thorough in calculating what we attempt, we can truly be distinguished from other men, for whom ignorance is boldness but calculation brings hesitancy. Rightly would they be judged strongest in spirit who recognize both dangers and pleasures with utmost clarity and are on neither count deterred from risks." - Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War: 2.40, "The Funeral Oration of Perikles" (431 BCE)

03-28-2007, 08:02 AM	#9
LoS-NutzholzWolf Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Columbus, Oh Age: 40 Posts: 123	All they had to do was look at where the credit card bill is sent too or the mailing address. __________________ -LoS-TimberWolf "Republican Ideology advanced the concept of 'civic virtue' - the idea that democracy depended on the unselfish commitment of each citizen to the public good." from The Brief American Pageant 6st edition

03-28-2007, 08:50 AM	#10
Raiyven Big Bad Thread Boogeyman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Burlington, ON. Age: 41 Posts: 406	Curse you and your logic, Nutz! I dunno, I still have issues with it. I can see how it could want to be implemented insofar as its a transaction taking place between me in Ontario and, say, Billy Bob in Alabama, and as such the transaction would be subject to taxation seeing as how the seller and purchaser are in regions with their own tax laws. But at the same time, in my mind, the parties are regionalized but the transaction itself is taking place in the politically null space of the internet, unless the server or whatnot through which the transaction takes place (say, wherever the paypal server is. Lets say its in South Park, Colorado) is a politically-recognized entity because of its location and as such whatever transaction takes place on that server is subject to the tax laws of wherever that server is. My brain hurts!! __________________ "For in that we are both especially daring and especially thorough in calculating what we attempt, we can truly be distinguished from other men, for whom ignorance is boldness but calculation brings hesitancy. Rightly would they be judged strongest in spirit who recognize both dangers and pleasures with utmost clarity and are on neither count deterred from risks." - Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War: 2.40, "The Funeral Oration of Perikles" (431 BCE) Last edited by Raiyven; 03-28-2007 at 08:55 AM.

03-28-2007, 09:30 AM	#11
Ghryphen THZ Founder Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,927	Yeah, they tax you on where your CC billing address is usually. Will have to have my bills sent to my dad and he can forward them up to me __________________ The Hounds of Zeus \| Allied Tribal Forces

03-28-2007, 10:30 AM	#12
Raiyven Big Bad Thread Boogeyman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Burlington, ON. Age: 41 Posts: 406	This whole thing is just making me catty: __________________ "For in that we are both especially daring and especially thorough in calculating what we attempt, we can truly be distinguished from other men, for whom ignorance is boldness but calculation brings hesitancy. Rightly would they be judged strongest in spirit who recognize both dangers and pleasures with utmost clarity and are on neither count deterred from risks." - Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War: 2.40, "The Funeral Oration of Perikles" (431 BCE)

03-28-2007, 12:58 PM	#13
Ghryphen THZ Founder Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,927	__________________ The Hounds of Zeus \| Allied Tribal Forces

03-28-2007, 04:20 PM	#14
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	Doesnt our state also tax you on gambling online? Just a bunch of greedy politicians in this state or stupid ones. They were trying to get a law passed here, don't know whatever happened with it, to make it so if your married and you don't have a kid within 2 years of being married then your marriage is dissolved. Wth?! Forcing people to have kids? Ya thats a great way to bring kids into this world. __________________

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