These Threats

Stang · 05-22-2002, 12:14 AM

have got to stop! They issue one every freakin day. Dont get me wrong its great they are doing their best to protect us but when the time comes when its a SERIOUS threat majority of us are not going to take it serious cuz of the many threats in the past. I dont think we need to know about them unless they have good reliable sources behind them. I dont think they will strike NY again anyways unless it is the Statue Of Liberty, they want the big landmarks so they get a reaction out of us. So watch every city not just NY.

I heard they get over a 100 threats a day. Just imagine if they issued warnings on just half of those, nobody will believe ya down the road. Lets not start this Crying Wolf thing on something that should be taken more seriously it effects all of us in the end.

And just another little rant, NY is a great city but so is EVERY other city in the USA. Yes a VERY VERY tragic thing happened but dont leave out all the rest of us, NY isnt the whole country.

XRogue · 05-22-2002, 02:04 PM

NY has always thought they were tho.......I hear ya about not causing a panic or crying wolf alot.

Aluscia · 05-22-2002, 04:10 PM

Bah, panic... That's all the US gov't has to worry about, now. Its external policies are laughable... What's up with backing out of all these international accords because their mandates don't meet that of the US's? That's retarded... If the US wants to be a player, it has to deal with the fact that having power makes you a target... and instead of sitting on their asses and not trying to play a dynamic role in the establishment of peace in the nations that are targeting them. Cuba embargos? Hello!!! To give a flimsy excuse like "Cuba's corrupt government would take all the proceeds..." well, duh! They *are* a communist country. And I'm sorry, but living standards in Cuba are higher than in a lot of other places around the world, despite the embargos by the US. What does that mean? it means the US doesn't want to back down from a decision it made all those years ago, and face humiliation. Same reason why embargos on Iraq aren't being lifted.

Sorry... didn't mean to get going... External policy interests me greatly, since I did an independent study on the practice of NGO's vs. governmental agencies in the delivery of foreign aid. The threats will not stop until the US gets off it's high-horse, and decides to play a big role in what is going on, instead of trying so hard to protect it's own "interests"...

XRogue · 05-22-2002, 04:30 PM

What, and get griped at for interfering yet again?

Stang · 05-22-2002, 05:06 PM

Exactly we try to help and in return we get yelled at for interfering.

Cerberus · 05-22-2002, 07:03 PM

Laur you are seriously misinformed.

Aluscia · 05-23-2002, 07:14 PM

Seriously misinformed? Do you *want* me to start talking about the perils of US AID? The government agency that was collapsed by the US government for not being efficient, and in fact, destroying the nations it was meant to help? No. The reason why you get yelled at for interfering is because you're not peacekeepers... you're peacemakers. There is a large difference. I'm all for a little elbow grease to get things done, but the history of US campaigns in the last 30 years has been anything but glorious (Vietnam, Gulf, Somalia, Bosnia, etc). I *am*, however, over generalizing. It's because I don't want to get into a technical political argument, while trying to state my point of view.

One day, Cerb, I am going to send you a tape of the show "Talking with Americans"... Then you will see who is misinformed, and who knows more about their neighbours to the south then they do about their own nation.

Cerberus · 05-23-2002, 07:44 PM

LOL, sure. We can do something or we can do nothing, I think you would prefer that we do something. So, never ever critizize us.

Aluscia · 05-23-2002, 07:48 PM

Right... and that's the most effective, democratic way... You sound *so* communist, Cerb.

Jode · 05-26-2002, 10:31 PM

I can't believe you would statements about our government like that Laurelin.

Aluscia · 05-27-2002, 03:16 AM

Unfortunately, I wouldn't have to make statements unless I saw them to be at least partly true. However, being a youth, and being told by a very special teacher in my senior year (OAC in Ontario = senior in the states) to question everything, and accept nothing for granted until it's already happened. I'm just as critical about our provincial and federal gov'ts.... So don't feel bad, Jode. I don't hate Americans, in fact, I love you guys. Somehow, despite all the bad quotes that manage to come out of Bush's mouth, you guys still have all the patriotism anyone in the world needs...But seriously. I have few problems with any living being... I don't hate the man, I dislike the decisions he's made while in the position of president. I dislike his platform. I dislike the pullout from the Kyoto protocol, the constant nagging for a stronger NATO force, the intn'l relations (especially with countries like Cuba and Iran), and all the other things that make life in a global community difficult when you aren't a citizen of the United States. (I count myself lucky, however... The world loves Canada enough that there would be outrage if you guys ever thought of manifest destiny crap again

)

So no, Jode. I don't reflect any of my disrespect on you... I really disrespect all government in the west right now. Britain is about the only place I actually like (Democratic socialism), but even then they're slipping into right wing 'democracy'.

Jode · 05-27-2002, 07:49 AM

I guess I could cut you a little slack, this being the "bitch pit" and all.
But you were starting to piss me off!

Aluscia · 05-27-2002, 03:33 PM

Heh... I piss everyone off... Even myself,

Maz · 05-27-2002, 05:35 PM

I don't recall Laur pissing me off

Aluscia · 05-27-2002, 06:01 PM

I just haven't tried hard enough, Mazzy darlin'... That, and you're my bitch, so its my *JOB* to piss you off

05-22-2002, 12:14 AM	#1
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	These Threats have got to stop! They issue one every freakin day. Dont get me wrong its great they are doing their best to protect us but when the time comes when its a SERIOUS threat majority of us are not going to take it serious cuz of the many threats in the past. I dont think we need to know about them unless they have good reliable sources behind them. I dont think they will strike NY again anyways unless it is the Statue Of Liberty, they want the big landmarks so they get a reaction out of us. So watch every city not just NY. I heard they get over a 100 threats a day. Just imagine if they issued warnings on just half of those, nobody will believe ya down the road. Lets not start this Crying Wolf thing on something that should be taken more seriously it effects all of us in the end. And just another little rant, NY is a great city but so is EVERY other city in the USA. Yes a VERY VERY tragic thing happened but dont leave out all the rest of us, NY isnt the whole country. __________________

05-22-2002, 04:10 PM	#3
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	Bah, panic... That's all the US gov't has to worry about, now. Its external policies are laughable... What's up with backing out of all these international accords because their mandates don't meet that of the US's? That's retarded... If the US wants to be a player, it has to deal with the fact that having power makes you a target... and instead of sitting on their asses and not trying to play a dynamic role in the establishment of peace in the nations that are targeting them. Cuba embargos? Hello!!! To give a flimsy excuse like "Cuba's corrupt government would take all the proceeds..." well, duh! They are a communist country. And I'm sorry, but living standards in Cuba are higher than in a lot of other places around the world, despite the embargos by the US. What does that mean? it means the US doesn't want to back down from a decision it made all those years ago, and face humiliation. Same reason why embargos on Iraq aren't being lifted. Sorry... didn't mean to get going... External policy interests me greatly, since I did an independent study on the practice of NGO's vs. governmental agencies in the delivery of foreign aid. The threats will not stop until the US gets off it's high-horse, and decides to play a big role in what is going on, instead of trying so hard to protect it's own "interests"... __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

05-22-2002, 05:06 PM	#5
Stang Team Captain Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Everett, WA, USA Age: 50 Posts: 3,859 Xbox Leaderboard: 1^st	Exactly we try to help and in return we get yelled at for interfering. __________________

05-22-2002, 07:03 PM	#6
Cerberus One bad mofo'n Hound Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Your Mom's House Age: 47 Posts: 1,319	Laur you are seriously misinformed. __________________ Tribes:Ascend Play it today for free

05-23-2002, 07:14 PM	#7
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	Seriously misinformed? Do you want me to start talking about the perils of US AID? The government agency that was collapsed by the US government for not being efficient, and in fact, destroying the nations it was meant to help? No. The reason why you get yelled at for interfering is because you're not peacekeepers... you're peacemakers. There is a large difference. I'm all for a little elbow grease to get things done, but the history of US campaigns in the last 30 years has been anything but glorious (Vietnam, Gulf, Somalia, Bosnia, etc). I am, however, over generalizing. It's because I don't want to get into a technical political argument, while trying to state my point of view. One day, Cerb, I am going to send you a tape of the show "Talking with Americans"... Then you will see who is misinformed, and who knows more about their neighbours to the south then they do about their own nation. __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

05-22-2002, 02:04 PM	#2
XRogue Forum wh0re Join Date: May 2001 Location: Texas Age: 53 Posts: 1,097	NY has always thought they were tho.......I hear ya about not causing a panic or crying wolf alot.

05-22-2002, 04:30 PM	#4
XRogue Forum wh0re Join Date: May 2001 Location: Texas Age: 53 Posts: 1,097	What, and get griped at for interfering yet again?

05-23-2002, 07:44 PM	#8
Cerberus One bad mofo'n Hound Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Your Mom's House Age: 47 Posts: 1,319	LOL, sure. We can do something or we can do nothing, I think you would prefer that we do something. So, never ever critizize us. __________________ Tribes:Ascend Play it today for free

05-23-2002, 07:48 PM	#9
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	Right... and that's the most effective, democratic way... You sound so communist, Cerb. __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

05-26-2002, 10:31 PM	#10
Jode Whoopiteedoo! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: WFZ Age: 48 Posts: 442	I can't believe you would statements about our government like that Laurelin. __________________

05-27-2002, 03:16 AM	#11
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	Unfortunately, I wouldn't have to make statements unless I saw them to be at least partly true. However, being a youth, and being told by a very special teacher in my senior year (OAC in Ontario = senior in the states) to question everything, and accept nothing for granted until it's already happened. I'm just as critical about our provincial and federal gov'ts.... So don't feel bad, Jode. I don't hate Americans, in fact, I love you guys. Somehow, despite all the bad quotes that manage to come out of Bush's mouth, you guys still have all the patriotism anyone in the world needs...But seriously. I have few problems with any living being... I don't hate the man, I dislike the decisions he's made while in the position of president. I dislike his platform. I dislike the pullout from the Kyoto protocol, the constant nagging for a stronger NATO force, the intn'l relations (especially with countries like Cuba and Iran), and all the other things that make life in a global community difficult when you aren't a citizen of the United States. (I count myself lucky, however... The world loves Canada enough that there would be outrage if you guys ever thought of manifest destiny crap again ) So no, Jode. I don't reflect any of my disrespect on you... I really disrespect all government in the west right now. Britain is about the only place I actually like (Democratic socialism), but even then they're slipping into right wing 'democracy'. __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

05-27-2002, 07:49 AM	#12
Jode Whoopiteedoo! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: WFZ Age: 48 Posts: 442	I guess I could cut you a little slack, this being the "bitch pit" and all. But you were starting to piss me off! __________________ Last edited by Jode; 05-27-2002 at 07:57 AM.

05-27-2002, 03:33 PM	#13
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	Heh... I piss everyone off... Even myself, __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead

05-27-2002, 05:35 PM	#14
Maz Forum wh0re Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 1,429	I don't recall Laur pissing me off __________________

05-27-2002, 06:01 PM	#15
Aluscia Emo Queen 1000th Thread Main Forum Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In a subterranean complex. Age: 41 Posts: 2,346	I just haven't tried hard enough, Mazzy darlin'... That, and you're my bitch, so its my JOB to piss you off __________________ Favourite Song of the moment - Pyramid Song - Radiohead