classic cars

[8bit]

Anyone here have a classic car they admire from the old days? I have always liked the Boss Mustang, and there was that cool Shelby Mustang in the anime series Gunsmith Cats. :cool:

http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/71boss302/

http://www.er3.com/firebird/

http://www3.sympatico.ca/f.bevil/My1970Swinger340.html

[Stang]

Mmmmm Mustangs :D

Gryphon had a '65 and we plan on getting another one to fix up when we get more space. I like the one from Gone In Sixty Seconds, Shelby I believe? This family is a big Ford family :). Gryphons uncle makes the old cobras, sure he will put up a link. Now those are nice but a very spendy hobby :). So for now Ill just sit in them :D.

[8bit]

Yes, that's correct. It was a Shelby GT 500 in Gone in 60 Seconds, but it was a replica. In Gunsmith Cats the animators featured a car true to the original.

[insaneferret]

bah, old, lame looking cars IMO

give me a sleek quiet modern machine that gets 50 MPG any day

[Ghryphen]

This is my uncles site Stang was talking about www.sofastllc.com

Ferret: *meep meep vrrrrrooom*

[Stang]

Some old cars are lame looking but once you have ridden in one how can ya not go back :).

[Torque]

I'll take the red/white one.

[8bit]

The Super Duty 455 Trans Ams of 1973/74 were quite spry. :D

http://www.geocities.com/wrenchplus/73xtra.html

http://www.sd455.com/transam.htm

[Stang]

I want the yellow one Torque :)

Every time I see a Trans Am I think of big hair or long hair and 80's music blarring out of it :D.

[Torque]

Yeah, yellow is cool. They are one mean looking vehicle. But I heard they ride rough, loud, etc....

[yourmom]

Ah ye old Mustang Mach 1 yumm..
Charger, Cuda, Chevelle SS Old school camaro (early 60's model), Stingray Vetts. Drool!

Cars that get 50 MPG?!?you can have them!! I'll keep my 93 octane loving WRX nothing like getting 23~24 MPG city driving :)

I'm glad to see America is starting to build Sports cars again. Those new Mustangs look great! I heard the GT model is going to be a beast! bout fuuking time. heard the charger might be coming back too.. Hemi goodness!

[Raiyven]

Fix Or Repair Daily!

*keeps head down* just flak from the resident MOPAR man ;) Give me a '74 Challenger with a 350 Magnum any day over a Stang. Royal purple and flat black.... mmmmmm
(sorry, Stang. I choose my Challenger over you :) )

Though, the 2005 'stang does look very nice now that i've seen the tail end of it. All the profile pics i'd seen so far made it look like a box with a 69? (think i got the wrong year) front end. They did the tail up really nice as well, and I think if you get the extra package that adds the wing, it finishes the machine off nicely. Caught it by chance on a commercial this afternoon.

yourmom: I was in the MOPAR meet in Carlisle, PA earlier this year, and Dodge had the Charger concept car there. It's a sweet, sweet machine. Even a 4-door and it still looks good. I hope they release it as a new 'stang killer :)

My dad and I own a '68 Barracuda. It's only got a 225 slant-6, but she's still a fun cruiser. We're looking at getting a '68 fastback 'cuda with a 340 4 spd :)

What about something more contemporary, though? What're you guys driving right now that gets your juices going?

<- 2001 Saturn SC1 :) I love my silver plastic bullet :)

[8bit]

There are muscle cars,...and then there's the "Machine" :rofl:

AMC Rebel "Machine" (http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/classicamx/RebMachArticle/RebMachineArticle.html)

[Ghryphen]

Though, the 2005 'stang does look very nice now that i've seen the tail end of it.Get used to that view :lol

[Raiyven]

8bit: i sadly admit, there's a mopar i've never seen before. kinda looks like a roadrunner :)

*beep beep*

[Torque]

Convertible cuda hemi's are going for a million bucks. I can't remember the year but I believe it was 1972. Only 1200 were made.

[Raiyven]

i can't tell you how many 'That Thing Got A Hemi?' t-shirts I saw at carlisle. Didn't outweigh the number of mullets, thats for sure ;)

mmmm speaking of convertibles, I saw a bright pastel blue '66 rambler american convertible going for 23k (CDN) at a car auction a month ago (didnt sell at 26 grand). Gorgeous car, though the guy said he spent 25 grand on a frame-off restoration. He got ripped off... bad bondo job, and you could SEE the ripples, and the restoration job was only a year old and already the threads were coming out of the door panels.

but at the same show.... (i think it was a) 1972 cutlass convertible. pure white, tan interior, i wanted to marry that machine right there. If you ever want to see some gorgeous (and WEIRD) machines, go to a car auction. *sigh* wish i'd bid on that MG Midget. Full frame-off restoration, and the guy let it go for 9 grand canadian. WHY DIDNT I BID ON IT? *cries a river*

[8bit]

Raiyven, you are correct, the Rebel Machine is not a Mopar car. The article is a bit misleading. The Rebel Machine is a product of American Motors, what used to be America's fourth largest car maker. American Motors (also known as AMC) was formed in 1954 by the merger of Nash and Hudson, in 1970 AM bought Kaiser-Jeep (yes the famous Jeep brand). Struggling into the 1980s after a semi successful alliance with Renault, American Motors was bought out by Chrysler in the mid 1980s and the last AMC badged car was produced in 1987. The boxy Jeep Cherokee of the 1980s and 90s was an AMC design, so too is the 4.0 HO injected I6 that powers a number of Chrysler Jeeps, it is related to the old 4.2 that powered so many AMC Gremlins and Hornets.

1970s Camaro range (http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro70.html)

Force 7 coupe (http://www.webtrade.com.au/p76/magazines/wheels/wheelsaug74001.htm)

Smokey & The Bandit Trans Am (http://www.78ta.com/international.htm)

[Raiyven]

thanks 8bit, i didnt know AMC was independent of Chrysler to such a late period, I thought they merged much earlier (in the 60s, i thought). the SpeedVision channel up here had a great documentary on the AMX, gorgeous little machine.

I have fond memories of my AMC Jeep Cherokee with the 4.0 inline 6 :)
That 6, like the slant-6 in my cuda, you just can't kill those things. I'm not sure if it was standard, but i had an electronic override for my tranny that let me switch between high-power torque and fuel economy (lol! whats fuel economy to a Jeep? 65l tank [16.someodd gallons] got me through maybe 10 days. but, the thing had 197,000km on it and purred at an idle). that was a great machine, sad to say I sold it for a 91 cavalier :(

[SiFi]

Why did you sell it? And why do you seem to get a "new" car every few years?

[Raiyven]

okay, here's it all in fairness.

1st car: 1987 Mazda B2200 pickup. frame cracked, almost broke in half, unsafe to drive, had to send her to the scrapyard *sniffles*

2nd car: aforementioned 1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo. excellent machine, loved it to death, but it cost me a fortune to keep full of gas when I was still only working 2 days a week for my mum. didnt make enough to save AND keep it full of gas. sold it in favour of something with better fuel economy.

3rd car: 1991 chevrolet cavalier. bought for better fuel economy. sold it a year later because it was a maintenance nightmare. things were constantly going wrong with it as a result of many past years of neglect (which were apparent once i started to work on it). Father's friend and dealer in used cars stopped by one night with a 2001 Saturn SC1 for my to test drive, to see if I liked it.

4th car: 2001 Saturn SC1 :p and i'm keeping this baby until there's no more oil in the ground, cause i love it to death :D *hugs his plastic car*

[8bit]

AMC bought Kaiser-Jeep for much the same reason that Chrysler bought AMC, which was to get Jeep and all marketing rights pertaining to Jeep. Jeep sales certainly kept AMC afloat for many years. I have a color advert from 1984 showing the Cherokee, with no mention of Chrysler in the ad, just the blue and red of AM.
Would you believe that the man who designed the AMC AMX 2 seater was the same guy that did the Hornet, Gremlin, Pacer and the 1980s boxy Cherokee? It was the late Dick Teague.
The AMX 2 seater was eventually replaced by the regular 4 seater Javelin with an AMX badge. 1974 was the last year for this car, and it was still available with a 401 motor. In 1977-80 AMX returned as a rebadged Hornet and Spirit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=5357&item=4502848869&rd=1

You have to see this special Gremlin 401. A dealer in Mesa Arizona built 20 special Gremlins with the 401 ci V8. 401 ci in a 168 inch car is BIG!

http://www.gremlinx.com/RandallXR.htm

http://www.gremlinx.com/images/wpe6.gif

[Stang]

OMG A GREMLIN! :eek:

My dad had one of those when we live in Alaska, brrr. There was a hole in the back seat floor in the middle that I would sit and watch the road when we went out. Same color as that first link lol. That thing was just weird :). Ahh the memories!

[Raiyven]

while we're on the topic, sortsof..

we've seen the retro 'stang, and chevy brought out that S11 retro pickup (which went for 86k CDN first year. then they realized nobody BOUGHT the thing. 50k now I think. nice truck, tho.) what else do we want to see brought back, though maybe modernized?

give me a challenger :)

...........or an El Camino. They're not a bad car, dont look bad... but every time I see one around here, there's a mullet behind the wheel =/ maybe the El Camino will bring the mullet back into style! business in the front, party in the back ;)

[8bit]

Business in the front, party in the back. Are we talking about the mullet, El Camino or both? :)
That pick up, wasn't it the SSR (dark blue) Chevy that paced the Indy 500? I think it is well high time that they launched a new AMC AMX 2 seater, given Chrysler have the rights to all things AMC. A real tight, compact 2 seater coupe with a big V8 and "GO Pak" like the late 60s original. We need to see more rear drivers. :yup:

[SiFi]

When the oil runs out, you could always stick a hydrogen engine and some speakers under the hood. Or even a fuel cell :)

[KitZune]

Make sure none of these cars get hit with a dirty nuclear blast...

[Raiyven]

nope, you're right 8bit, that's the one i meant (S11? where was i, 1993?)
SiFi, if it ain't got more horses than alberta under a fat 4bbl and enough rumble to give your passenger an orgasm, i don't want it ;)

[8bit]

I will put up a link so people will know what truck we are talking about. The SSR reminds me of project show cars turned into production like the Dodge Prowler and Audi TT.

Chevy SSR Indy 500 2003 Pace Car (http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-2003-Chevrolet-SSR-Pickup-Convertible-Indy-500-Pace-Vehicle.htm)

4bbl carb was a really simple way to high performance before fuel injection came along. Yes, you can get more from triple 2bbls, but they are hard to keep tuned.

454 Vette (http://musclecar-logbook.net/GMC/newpage177.htm)

455 HO Grand Prix (http://www.sd455.com/grandprix.htm)

[Raiyven]

i'm still trying to find a picture of our Cuda. The '68 fastback formula S is still floating around, but a lot of this B-body stuff is hard to find. We've been to the Carlisle Mopar Nationals, Moparfest up here in the North, even the weekly Cruise Nights at the mall across town wednesday nights during the summer. In all these years we've only seen one other '68 (cherry red convertible, gorgeous machine), and a '69 fastback. But ours is the only '68 notchback around right now. It's a pity... for a tiem nobody wanted these B-bodies, but now it's almost impossible to find parts that arent NOS

[8bit]

In terms of Mopar I have always liked the Dodge Aspen R/T, Plymouth Volare Road Runner twins, you could still get a 360 ci motor in those as late as 1979 MY. Hard to find today though.

[sh@rp]

That looks nice, cool paint job

[Raiyven]

that IS nice. yours?

[8bit]

Unfortunately not, those cars are really hard to find for sale in even semi good condition. I have an 86' Dodge Daytona CS.
The Dodge Magnum XE of the late 70s had a tough looking front end. I think 1978 MY was the last year for the 400 engine option.
:s0005: engine pollution controls

[Raiyven]

yeah indeed (pollution controls). though not classic, next summer i'm going to tweak the engine in my saturn. the thing has speed and fuel economy out the wazoo (i drive 40km a day, 20 to and from school, plus city driving), at least 65mph... usually 80 (around 130kph) either way, and i still get 500km to a 40L tank of gas. but i remember going through the mountains in Penn, and having to drop 2 gears just to make it up.
i need to get the steering tightened up too, it's far too loose for my taste. hopefully it won't involve having the front end converted to an expensive sport suspension... i'm hoping the steering box can just be tightened up some. from there it's a new chip, a cold air intake, and then cosmetic mods (i'm not big on sacrificing too much fuel economy, lol). the 01-02 SCs are excellent cars. can you recommend something to throw into my engine (oil-wise) that will blast out all the carbon, besides just an oil change? i change it every 3mo or 5000km on the button, but it's idling a little rough for my taste, and i'm feeling a performance loss off the line and into 3rd gear. i have the fuel system cleaned once a year (injectors, induction system, etc)) though i need a new fuel filter put in (it's part of the induction sys, so the dealer has to do it. megabucks). any ideas? something to clean all the crap out of my engine :)

[8bit]

Gas mileage is important, especially with the variable gas prices. I was just reading about the 1977 Firebird Formula 4 speed with the then new economy 301 ci V8. They recorded 21 mpg combined city/highway, which was good for those days.
Your fuel filter is part of the induction set up? Often it's located next to the electric fuel pump towards the back of the car. Anyway you can try some of those fuel system cleaners, there are various brands. I haven't used any for quite some time but some people think they are good. I am tempted to say that you might have had a particular bad tank of gas, but, that happens less often these days than it used to.
From what you said did you add a performance chip to the car? If so that might be producing the rough idle and loss of performance initially and into third. Sometmes these chips boost engine power by sacrificing some torque, so the engine feels stronger when you go for high revs, but lower down in the rev range (lower down the power curve) it can make the engine feel a bit sluggish. This could explain why you feel that loss when shifting into third, by going into the taller gear after 2nd the revs drop back and you get back into that sleepy part of the rev range. Also by creating more top end power the chip could have introduced additional idle roughness compared to a stock standard chip. Designing a good performance chip isn't easy.
Could you swap the normal chip back into the car and see if the problem goes away? Alternatively, if the car is still using a standard chip, try another standard chip. It's possible there might be something wrong with the current one in your car. They make so many of these chips that a certian % are faulty.

[Raiyven]

no, i've not put the chip in yet. it does need an oil change, which it will get today, but it feels more like a fuel system issue than anything else, at a red light it almost feels like the plugs are misfiring. if the car were older, i'd say it was just the 4 cylinders firing iin such a way that it produced a bit of a lurch, since i dont have 6 or 8 to give me a steady rhythm, but most if not all cars these days have piston coutnerweights to combat that. i really dont know. mebbe it was a bad tank of gas though

[8bit]

Have a look at the ignition side of things, check the ignition leads and spark plugs.
Yes, you are right 4 cyl engines are very smooth these days, that can't be the source of your problem. Might still be a bad std. chip, I can't imagine there being any mechanical problem on such a young car that is serviced regularly. Puzzling situation indeed.

[Raiyven]

just to resurge this old post, i discovered here on my machine, a picture of our antique green 1968 notchback Barracuda :D

225 slant-6 'leaning tower of power', 3 on the tree. a booze cruiser, but a damn fun car to cruise for booze in :)

be warned, high-rez pic! if you have a slow compy, avert your browsin' eyes!

[Raiyven]

8bit: if you're still around, i've been meaning to post a picture of the second addition to our family ;)

1963 Dodge Fargo 100 'Sweptline'
225 Slant-6, factory 391 rear end

...and that's all there is ;) A farm truck, to be sure, but let's just say we're screwed if we ever need non-engine parts for this thing. Interior restoration is the next step, after that might be an engine rebuild.

Speaking of which, pictures to follow when the Barracuda comes back with a shiny rebuilt 225 under the hood! Other than some minor trim pieces, she's a finished project :)