Fable anyone?

[juxtaposedjoker]

Fable will be availble to buy in one hour for me. Anyone else here going to play? If so, would you like someone to play with?

[insaneferret]

i'm probably gonna wait for when it comes out on PC, or the xbox goes down to $100

but i'll probably be so addicted to World of Warcraft by then i wont care

[Stang]

I've heard about the game but haven't really looked into it. Got too many other games keeping me occupied right now :).

Let us know how it is though, never know might suck us into playin it :).

[juxtaposedjoker]

It's amazing. Kindof like morrowind but ten thousand times better. Though, I'm disapointed. When I knew that it would connect online I figured I'd be playing with others at the same time...but it isn't that way at all. I can sign in to xbox so that my friends can see me but I do not think I'm able to invite them to play fable. meh...

so I'm disapointed because of that...

But everything else is amazing. I think its better than any final fantasy I've played actually. The fighting is real time--I love actually kicking ass. So thats what did it for me.

WOW omg...I want it...hehe...

[KitZune]

Don't compare it to Final Fantasy

It is a different style of game altogether.
Turn Based RPGs are different from Action RPGs. and it's all about preferance. Fable does look good, but it lost my interest purely on being xbox exclusive.

[yak]

listen to him/her he/she 's got a point

[juxtaposedjoker]

I compare all the RPGs together. It's just how I work. I've only played FF 7,8,9. Compared to them I think Fable is better.

[Gambit]

You can't really put all RPGs in the same bucket anymore. Used to be that RPG meant something like Wizardry, Ultima, Bard's Tale or SSI's gold box games. Then they came up with things like Thief, System Shock and Deus Ex that really erased the boundary between FPS and RPG. Note that those are all Looking Glass Studios derivatives... Hmm.. And in case you bring up Ultima Underworld, the game that finally pulled me away from my trusty Amiga, that's Looking Glass, too!

Now we have other games that also blur the lines, but in different ways. Studios are still experimenting (good), though not as much (bad). Genre-blending is cool, but risky, and the suits with money who make decisions don't like risk.

Then you have Molyneaux, who's always made weird stuff and to heck with the suits. Populous practically defined the god-game. Black & White, 'nuff said. I don't suppose any of you ever heard of Magic Carpet? That really rocked!
Now he puts out Fable. He's a little limited in the XBox format, but I'm quite interested to see/hear what it's like. I've not played close attention to the previews because I don't have an XBox, but still.

Let us know.

[STUWEY]

I played Magic Carpet, i even remember seeing one of the coolest things was the ability to play in a view that kinda looked like a magic eye poster.

I have read alot about Fable though and it looks sweet

[juxtaposedjoker]

Um...let's put it this way....I'm not into gamming enough to be able to go that in depth genre blending thing. I look at how the game draws you in and for me, a sense of fantasitic realism will make or break the game. Is the story sound? Dialoge believible? etc etc. If the game is emercing and can make me think about it 24/7 then it's a good game. I'm not asking anyone to subscribe to my style of game 'reviewing' but this is how I do it, take it or leave it.

Fable in this case is a GREAT game. I think the storyline is sound. It isn't the most orgional but how they do it is different. The amount of choises that you can make gives it a stronger sense of realism then in final fantasy. In this respect it is more like Morrowind but waaay more fun.

I like how my chars appearence changes, I like the fact he can make ppl love him even marry him (boy or girl yes your char can be gay! that's a first) and your char can have sex! SEX. i think that's hilariously great lol. Though my char is 47, good, and married to a male school teacher and still a virgin. I haven't figured out how to get laid yet but I will!

You can also buy houses and rent them or just live in them...um...you can also trade between towns to make gold. I just like that. I also love the graphics. I think they are great.

meh its before 8 am...i need to go do stuff that doesn't require thought...like...go to class...

[KitZune]

I'm a videogame designer... it's what I do in my spare time. So my view on genres is very solid. Blur all you want, but don't tell OTHER people "It's better than final fantasy." When it's not the same thing. That's like saying "Apples are better than oranges, because they are sweet." because someone else might say "Oranges are better than apples, because they are sour."

It only makes me mad because one of my games gets compared to Resident Evil a lot... and that PISSES ME OFF... It's nothing like resident evil... okay so it's a horror game... but I think that's as far as the comparison goes. Fable is an RPG... Final Fantasy is an RPG.... but they are in no way alike. as I said, Fable looks good... but if I were to play it, I would not think of it as the same thing as Final Fantasy.. because Final Fantasy is a turn-based RPG. Some people prefer that style of game... it's obvious that you don't. You like the gauntlet/Champions of Norath style of RPG... I like the Final Fantasy / Dragon Warrior style of gameplay. The action fighting is fine... but it's meant for a different kinda game for me.. I like the precision menus in FF style of game where you chose what you're doing every round.

Anyways, You pushed a kitzune button. And you... Yak... you call me "SHE" and "HER" not "he/she" and "him/her" or I smack you ten ways to sunday! With a very large trout!!!

[STUWEY]

on the same note the next Elder Scrolls game has been announced for sometime around winter 2005

[Stang]

I was going to say something about you calling Kitz a "him/her" but I thought I'd let Kitz whip you into shape :D.

[XMEN Ashaman DTM]

It's more entertaining for Kitz to cover her own back. :D

As for RPGs. There are different flavors. One of my faves is Neverwinter Nights. Good stuff, fun to run around naked, and you can get together with friends for your own module fun!

My only favorite console RPG was ChronoTrigger (SNES, probably one of the best games ever). I played others: Final fantasy II, III; and... actually... I think that's it for console RPGs.

You gotta realize that what made ChronoTrigger so good for me was the story that just pulled me in and held me there. I remember sticking with that game all through the night many times. But I have to admit that the story is only a part of it. Even though I actually got emotional and attached, shocked, afraid, and happy for my characters, it was the EXECUTION that did the trick. They had a good story, but the way it was told was what kept me going. Few games have done that for me. Homeworld was one of those games.

A good story may be good to sit down and read, but if you put it into an RPG and take turns, it may not turn out well. Or it may be the best thing. If you put it into a non-stop-action kind of telling, then it may be even better.

There are games where I sometimes get the feeling that NPCs are just thrown in to make the story work. There would be no other logical reason for them... to the point that it's obvious that the story was lacking, or how it was being told was lacking. Thus the creators tossing in an NPC.

[juxtaposedjoker]

Hmm. But if you ask someone what their fave. fruit is then you may even get kiwi and they may compare the kiwi to the watermelon because these are the two fruits that they are the most familure with.

Final fantasy 7,8,9 and Fable are the games that I like and play the most. The genre doesn't make the game. I don't agree with that and I don't think that you can just compare inside the genres on what makes a game great when 'great' is subjective. I can compare final fantasy to frogger if I really wanted to because this is my opinion, my bias, my likes and dislikes. I was asked to share what I liked then told not to? Conflicting eh? Ask someone their opinion and you may get anything so you don't like the cross genre thing--fine doesn't mean I can't do it. 'Cause really, do you confine your fave. game EVER by genre? I don't. I just play.

And don't tell me what I like and don't like. I LOVE turn based rpgs and I love final fantasy. I mostly play turn based rpgs actually so that's why I was so blown away from Fable. It made me love something that wasn't turn based. I actually enjoyed the real time fighting when normally I prefer the turn based. It's just how they did the real time fighting in Fable that I enjoyed more than the other.

Sorry if my tone is rough its just rather strange when someone asks me to talk about the game and then I'm told that I'm only allowed to talk about it in a certain way. meh. I guess one of my buttons got pushed cuz to me this is the same thing as those people who write letters and complain and get a great show canceled instead of just changing the channel. Don't like how I compare or rate games? Then skim or skip.

[Gambit]

The problems not how you compare or rate games, jj, but more with how you're using certain labels. (In fact, the points you mentioned like drawing you in and a sense of realism count for an awful lot with me, too)
If you said that tshirt is black, when it's obviously white to me, then we have a communication problem somewhere and at least one of us needs to adjust. So what got everybody twisted up was when you used the same label for game A that you used for game B. Kind of like if you put Donkey Kong and Doom in the same category, people would at least look at you funny... ;)

[KitZune]

Gambit knows what I'm talking about. If you look at games without barriers than how can you say one is BETTER than another? I don't like to say that at all... my favourite games are not better than other games, I simply enjoy them more. So if you want to say something is BETTER, then you better be comparing the same sort of game, otherwise people will think you don't know what you're talking about.

My favourite Genre of game is Fighting games... but some of my favourite games are RPGs, or even FPSes... But I'd never call Soul Calibur 2 better than Final Fantasy X. Nor would I call Final Fantasy X better than Soul Calibur 2. However I MIGHT say that Soul Calibur 2 is better than Virtua Fighter 4 (which... it's actually pretty close in my opinion).

Play Final Fantasy 6 or 10... 10 actually made me cry at the end because the story was so engrossing. It's not all that expensive anymore... but I would tell you it's well worth it... It may not be your "Favourite" game... but it's still a good one.

[Gambit]

There are twists to that, though. You can easily say, for example, that one product is better-made than another; you KNOW we have all played games that were made very poorly... :)


(side note: not sure what my FAVE game is, but my fave group of developers would certainly be that Looking Glass crew. Some of whom are now at Irrational, and worked on T:V, I think...)

[KitZune]

Yeah I love the Looking Glass games... System Shock 2... Thief.. awesome games... it's too bad they were scattered to the wind...

[Kyrie]

I'm a sucker for very customizable characters, so on that basis alone I'm quite interested in Fable. I'm definitely gonna rent it and give it a try, especially now that I'm actually okay with Xbox controllers thanks to Tony Hawk and Halo, haha. I just know I'm gonna feel the urge to make my character an evil bisexual pretty boy.

PS: I have to finish Silent Hill 4 first though, and I've got like two more hours to go in it. It's also three days late for return. Whoops!

PPS: Virtua Fighter 4 kicks Soul Calibur 2's ass.

[KitZune]

It's pretty close to me... but the ancient and accurate weaponry over pure martial arts wins it out for me... Virtua Fighter 5 looks good tho.... But I hope Aoi can still do her triple leg-breaker move.

[Gambit]

What do you folks think about the Dead or Alive games, BTW?

[yak]

doa is a good series of games, ive seen worse games

[STUWEY]

i hope to get DOA Ultimate when it comes out

[KitZune]

DOA is pretty good... moved to Xbox, and since have not played any of them... I'm not a fan of "the box"