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Old 07-26-2001, 08:38 AM   #16
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Refrigerant-cooled processors are probably the hardest thing to cool right now. Once you have coolant that's below ambient temperature, you start running into condensation problems. Fixing that means an exacto-knife, a LOT of closed-cell foam rubber, glue, and some very steady hands. Don't forget to get a DigitalDoc or something, because you'll have to measure the temps of everything to make sure it works.

You'd be better off going with a 'bong cooler'. This is nothing more than a miniaturized nuclear cooling tower made out of PVC pipe, a fan, and a showerhead. These things can draw off something on the order of 800 watts of heat, far outstripping a radiator. And the best part, they can handle just aobut anything you throw at them, and they'r cheap to build. Overclockers.com has a few articles on bong coolers to look through. Definitely worth a good long look.
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Old 07-26-2001, 09:44 AM   #17
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nah that baby only cools the processor, I'm talking about a cheaper (way cheaper) little box that is basically a refrigerator.
some thing that should only run 2 or 3 hundred.

basically taking a mini fridge and turning it into a computer case. or visa versa. I dont think moisture would be a problem unless you tried to go down to freezing. I'm thinking something that will keep it around 40 degrees inside the whole case
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Have you guys overlooked aluminum casing? it tends to conduct heat, doesn't it? taking the heat away from your processor instead of trapping it, right? (The reason for all the question marks is that I'm not an engineering person (I dropped grade 13 chem after 2 weeks), but I've heard of aluminum casing being good for any processor over the gig line, especially intel chips)
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Cerb, refrigerator-based cooling systems can't escape the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Fridges aren't meant to cool something that's constantly throwing off heat--they're meant to cool it ONCE, and then let the insulation do the rest of the work. You'll blow out the compressor if you try to cool an entire computer, which throws out something on the order four to five hundred watts of heat. Considering the danger from condensation, it really isn't worth the time or effort.

Like I said, a bong cooler is about the safest and most powerful option you have available. If you don't want to do a bong cooler, I'd suggest something with a stacked-plate radiator and a bigass waterblock. The bong-would be an 'open' system... you'd have to add water to it, while the radiator system could be sealed (closed).
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Old 07-30-2001, 08:41 PM   #20
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Laur:

Aluminum cases are used more for the fact that they shield RF interference better than a steel case. The better the conductor, the better the shielding.

Aluminum does conduct heat, but you don't want to use conduction or radiation as your method of heat transfer, when there is a nice, efficient means called convection.

A superconducting case would be best for shielding.
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Old 07-30-2001, 09:05 PM   #21
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Just take off one side of the casing and let it breathe .
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Just move to freakin' Alaska, and don't have a case at all... that's the best solution.
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Nope. Alaska was hotter than we were in Seattle for a while there.

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Naw they are back to rain now . Have family so I get weather updates all the time .

I like that idea Laur.
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I got it FIXED!!!!

It turns out that I had some really crappy memory. When I got some new memory, everything was as smooth as silk.

I have Win2kPro installed on it, my GeForce 3 and SB Live! cards are working well. AND I am loading T2 as I type this on my Win98 machine.

Woohoo!

Now I'll need to see how fast I can make this baby go!
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